B. Lukács
President of the Matter
Evolution Subcommittee of the Geonomy Scientific
Committee of HAS
CRIP RMKI, H-1525 Bp. 114,
Pf. 49,
lukacs@rmki.kfki.hu
ABSTRACT
S. M. Stirling is
writing books in Alternate History. Besides the obvious evolutionary
connections, these books suggest lots of interesting scientific or scholarly
problems, some discussed in the books, some not. In his Lords of Creation cycle
in an Alternate History very advanced aliens terraformed
Venus & Mars 200 My ago; this is PoD. But the terraformation does not influence Earth too much for a
while, and in twentieth century AD still Stalin, Kennedy & de Gaulle are
the political leaders. Is this a self-consistent picture? And if it is, what is
the effective terrestrial PoD? For an answer various sciences and scholarships must
be combined. The result will be that terrestrial history started to diverge on
the two timelines in 1932 (with the Adams-Dunham measurements, and the last
transplantation of humans to Venus happened sometimes between 9500 & 7500
BC.
0. PROLOGUE
S. M. Stirling is
producing a big variety of Alternative History sci-fi’s. Alternative History is a subclass of sci-fi’s, where the fantasy does not enjoy its unlimited freedom. In an
ideal AH story only one event has other outcome than on our timeline (that is
the PoD, Point of Divergence), especially an event
which "might have happened as well otherwise", by other words, where
even now we do not know if the particular outcome was necessary or not. (Here I
omit philosophical discussions of Free Will, determinism/indeterminism, the
Everett Theory of Quantum Mechanical Measurement and such, for simplicity.) So
at PoD one event has another outcome, and then the
author continues the story, with as
strict "causality" as possible. Of course the PoD
acts then as an initial condition different than in Our TimeLine (OTL). Then
the author elaborates this Alternative History.
Now, we do not yet
know if such concurrent timelines can be realised "synchronously", or
not. (Against the a priori
impossibility of the alternative see
The machinery can be
demonstrated by means of, e.g., Poul Anderson's
works. In Eutopia [2] a modern (c. 1970 AD) Greek
social researcher from a timeline where Alexander III of Macedon did not drink himself exactly into death but
after some time recovered, so Aristotle
did not have to leave the Lyceum in 322 AD, can switch timelines,
and explores one where Alexander did die prematurely, but the Tours-Poitiers battle in 732 AD
had an outcome opposite than in OTL. So the Frankish Kingdom became weaker, the Pippin-Charlemagne line could not
substitute the Merovings, so in the next 200
years Dane Vikings & Magyars destroyed the Western Christian civilisation.
In 1970 AD Danes can be found in Canada & Minnesota (
S. M. Stirling works
in the AH scheme. In one sequence (Lords of Creation [4], [5]) the PoD was 200 My in the past; a
superhuman civilisation terraformed Venus & Mars,
and from time to time they imported new animals & plants to the other two
planets. Terrestrial history was practically not influenced until 1947 AD, when
astronomers detected the habitable planetary surfaces. Therefore Cold War went
to space. The Draka sequence of Stirling puts the PoD to somewhere at the second half of the XVIIIth century, Northern American
loyalists go to South Africa, so the XXth century
will be very, very different. (But this sequence is par excellence Military SF,
so I ignore it completely.)
Now, Stirling &
Flint invented a somewhat different new AH scenario. (I think
The idea is
"simple". A tremendously superhuman ET civilisation sends back a
negligible part of our contemporary Earth into the past, and replaces the surface
with the past one. In
While this opus is not
yet comparable in size and details with that of Honoré
de Balzac, it may be later; and while Balzac had to know only his present society and its immediate past, Stirling
is confronted with scientific problems, and with a number of different
societies. True, the scientific problems are not direct. Earthpeople
do not understand the Lords of Creation; not even the bioscience of Martian
hominids. But
So far he generally
fulfils the expectations. But the opus is a challenge for somebody (I mean
myself) who is the President of a Matter Evolution Subcommittee. Evolution of
sciences, evolution of languages, evolution of hominids...
I am going to make a
series of comments of that opus. That
will not be criticism. Nobody is
interested if I like or dislike a book. Rather I am going to discuss different
items in the books from the viewpoint of the actual science (or, sometimes,
scholarship).
Sometimes this is
really a challenge. E.g. Lords of Creation definitely use a
physics unknown for us. And our present physics is not the Physics. For 2000 years it was not only elementary
experience but also Fundamental Theory that there is no Motion (at least,
except for transients) without Force. People generally believe that Aristotle
was stupid and the later generations did not dare innovate; but Aristotle did
know that his theory was not yet complete. See his own words about the problem
of ballistics (spears and arrows) [16]. In Chap. 32 of Mechanics he writes:
"Why is it that an object which is thrown eventually comes to a
standstill? Does it stop when the force which started it fails, or because the
object is drawn in a contrary direction, or is it due to its downward tendency,
which is stronger than the force which threw it? Or is it absurd to discuss such questions, while the principle escapes
us?" (Italics are mine.) The paragraph is clear enough even it
contains only questions. The Stagirite did know that
ballistics was at best very difficult to describe even in his theory; and he
was not able to do. Still, missiles flew; and later somebody would improve even
his description.
Before Einstein's
success not only everybody in physics was convinced that Flow of Time was
independent of spatial motions; everybody believed that even a doubt would be
meaningless. Special Relativity appeared a mere 103 years. Similarly, until the
formulation of Quantum Mechanics (more or less 1926) physicists were convinced
that any object has its sharp momentum and
position, although maybe we do not know them; and similarly that one object
cannot be simultaneously here and there. It seemed defetism
to question the first statement and unscientific magic the second. That was 82
years ago.
Our present science
will be so primitive and untrue for the XXVth
century as the Aristotelian physics for us. Still, Aristotle was a true
scientist (while Platon, Marcion,
Plotinos and Melanchton
were not), as a true physicist as e.g. Galileo,
In this study I
concentrate on the first Volume of Stirling's Lords of Creation series [4], but
I will discuss shortly the second Volume [5] too. In this series Somebody has terraformed both
Venus and Mars and transplanted living organisms thither from Earth. The terraforming happened geological times ago; still Earth is
quite similar to ours: politicians and writers of our 50's and 60's are
mentioned. For a literary critic the question would be: is the author
self-consistent or not? But for me, physicist and president of an evolutionary
subcommittee the really interesting question is different.
Of course nobody can
prove that alternate realities would exist simultaneously, even if
The reader will see that for the determination
of the effective PoD
one must use astronomy, physics, biology and politology
simultaneously. Also, it will be seen that, if
alternate realities exist, then one can reconstruct the alternate TimeLine
from meager information + the knowledge of Natural
Laws, which must, of course, be the same
on any TimeLine.
1. VENUS ON THE TIMELINE OF
THE LORDS OF CREATION (LCTL)
The time of the story
of [4] is 1988-1990, but earlier events are mentioned back to the end of WWII;
no information suggests any deviation during WWII from Our TimeLine (OTL). The
main actors are situated in
At the first half of
[4] biologist Samuel Feldman and geologist Cynthia Whitlock discover the
Anomaly of Venusian Life. Venusian
life is completely Terran-like. Humans belong to two
species (subspecies?): H. sapiens and H. neanderthalis.
True, Venusian sapients do
not match exactly any Terrestrial groups (e.g. the Nesbergu,
Cloud Mountain People, are amber-skinned but
yellow hairs and blue eyes are frequent and
epicanthic fold as well), but the differences seem well within species level.
Lots of mammals are found which are either the verge of being classifiable into
terrestrial species (as e.g. tharg » cow, or the local boar) or could be considered as a new member
of a terrestrial genus (greatwolf < Canidae). Birds generally differ more and dinosaurs are
still around. As for plants, some are almost terrestrial as well. As for
geologic layers, the early layers are lifeless, showing a reducing atmosphere.
Then there is a layer, with the estimated interval of 2-3 My,
where remnants of bluegreen and red algae are
conjectured; and then completely terrestrial-like Jurassic macroscopic fossils
follow. Theory: Somebody (nicknamed Lords of Creation) outside of the Solar
System terraformed Venus c. 200 My
ago. (Mars is suspected also to have been terraformed,
but there the layers are not so clear.)
As for
anthropology/linguistics, we have information about 3 different sapient groups.
(The neanderthals are
clearly at
After collecting the
above geological (I should rather write aphroditology,
but, alas, in our times the classical culture is withering), biological,
anthropological and linguistic information the
Our information about
LCTL Venus does not give details for the transplantation waves, but some
deductions are more or less sure. A wave happened in Jurassic, but it did not transplant mammals/therapsids. With such a transplantation
now very strange mammals would be present there (or did they die out?). One or
a few Cretaceous transplantation was responsible for the diapsids
(e.g. dinosaurs), and maybe for some birds. (Venusian
birds seem to differ more from terrestrial relatives than mammals do.)
In the Cenozoic multiple transplantation waves can be conjectured.
Greatwolves originally were near to Miocene Epicyon (Feldman). Local boars seem to be near to terrestrial
boars; the Suidae exist from cca.
the Miocene/Pliocene border. Tharg
is a bovine according to Feldman, not exactly an Earth species but something
half buffalo half wisent. So the ancestor must have been transplanted in Late
Pliocene. Antelopes exist on LCTL Venus, but the Lords of Creation may have
found antelopes in any time in Neogene. Finally, let
us see Primates. Baboons are mentioned, the group appeared in Pliocene. Then the forrick, something with bright
red bottom, living at treetops, so a Macaca or a Cercopithecus or something between. Such animals are
common from the Miocene/Pliocene border, but the description is vague enough,
so any time can be good in the last 30 My. And we have
both types of Homo. Upper Palaeolithe H. neanderthalis could be collected from
The language is kentum; however satemisation was
an innovation, so in the older times
all IE dialects must have shown kentum features.
However "9" is "nef", while in Satem Slavic and Baltic (except Westernmost Baltic,
Prussian) "9" is formed from another root ("devät'"),
so some forking may be found for dating. However the "100" is
interesting: "tektek", where "tek" is "10". Now, in lots of IE languages a
root related to Latin "kentum", Sanskrit
"satem" is used for "100"; "tektek" = "ten tens; big ten" is a quite
different construction. Note that words related to "kentum"
are known from Finno-Ugric languages ("had", "kant" &c., but often not in meaning
"100", but rather as "bigger coherent group". Manyshi "100" is interestingly enough "janigh sat", so "big seven", being "sat" = "7"; the same
construction as in Nesbergu "tektek"
except that in Manyshi "7" acts as if it
played the role of "10"; surely some reminiscence of a 7-based
counting system. So the guess is that the "tektek"
construction is old amongst IE languages but later than an IE-Uralic language
unity/Sprachbund. For more discussion see App. B.
However no Venusian culture knew the bow, which is a Mesolithic
innovation. This would tentatively put the last transfer to c. 8,000 BC or
before. So obviously Kartahownians discovered copper
smelting and later bronze already on Venus.
It is impossible to
write the prehistory of Venusian H. sapiens from such
meager information. However we can write the history
of LCTL Earth almost for a quarter century after WWII from the data of [4]
& [5]; that will be done in the next Chapter and a picture will emerge.
2. ON THE POST-WWII LCTL
EARTH
Explicit statements,
hints, logic, and detailed knowledge of the parallel OTL history make it
possible to write a chronological table of LCTL between 1945 and 1969. Mentions
of earlier events (other than scientific) are extremely rare and this is also
true for events between 1970 and 1988.
WWII was fought, and
very probably very similarly to OTL. We shall see the reasons; I must mention
the problem explicitly only because one and half sentences in the prologue of
[5] seems to contradict this. There, watching the TV
program from the landing on Mars, Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov discuss the
motivation for space research. Heinlein tells: "We had the incentive, once
they proved Mars had an oxygen atmosphere back in 'forty-seven'. ... That's why
we had von Braun hard at work from the day we caught him,
..." Since in OTL von Braun was working in Peemünde,
later Soviet sector, one could interpret the statement in a way that the war
ended in LCTL in 1947. However even in OTL von Braun went twice to USA, namely
he became PoW in 1945 in Bavaria, then transported to
USA; but he went then home in 1947, and returned with his family to USA.
Heinlein in [5] may remember this second travel; with a WWII 2 years longer
LCTL Japan could not be a WestBlock state in [5].
There are a few events
when we know or at least rather strongly suspect that they happened in LCTL but
sources [4] and [5] do not explicitly mention it. In such cases our
reconstruction is given in italics and
smaller font. If only the date is deduction, I use normal font. Table 1 does not
contain scientific events, including space research; such come later.
Year |
LCTL |
OTL |
1945 |
End of WWII |
End of WWII |
1946 |
Postwar reorganisations |
Postwar reorganisations |
1947 |
|
|
1948 |
First |
First |
1949 |
Popular Republic of |
Popular Republic of |
1950 |
Korean War |
Korean War |
1951 |
Communauté Européenne
du Charbon et de l'Acier from 6 states: |
Communauté Européenne
du Charbon et de l'Acier from 6 states: |
1952 |
|
|
1953 |
Korean War ends. Generalissimo Stalin dies; successor Khrushchev |
Korean War ends. Generalissimo Stalin dies; successor Khrushchev |
1954 |
First Qemoy-Matsu crisis |
Western European Union. First Qemoy-Matsu
crisis |
1955 |
? |
End of occupations in |
1956 |
First Secretary Mao Tse-Tung dies;
successor is Chou En-Lai. Suez Crisis; USA-UK intervention |
|
1957 |
? |
IAEA |
1958 |
Second Qemoy-Matsu crisis. Then peaceful
settlement of the dispute bw. PRC/RC. De Gaulle
returns to power |
No settlement of Qemoy-Matsu dispute
PRC/RC. De Gaulle returns to power |
1959 |
? |
Khrushchev-Mao negotiations in |
1960 |
? |
EFTA: |
1961 |
JFK president |
JFK president |
1962 |
Laotian troubles. US troops in |
Laotian troubles. Cuban crisis. Ceasefire in |
1963 |
? |
De Gaulle blocks |
1964 |
Kennedy withdraws from |
Khrushchev is ousted; successor Brezhnev & Kosigin |
1965 |
Kennedy president second time |
URSS promises "maximal aid" to |
1966 |
Thailand Border Crisis, later settled |
|
1967 |
Arab-Israeli 6-Day War; common EastBlock-WestBlock
demarche, |
Arab-Israeli 6-Day War; no peacekeeping |
1968 |
The Franco regime falls in |
French, Bohemian and Polish internal crises. New Economic Mechanism
in |
1969 |
? |
French President de Gaulle abdicates |
Table 1: World politics 1945
- 1968
We do not yet know if
de Gaulle abdicated also in LCTL in 1969; the OTL immediately reason had
nothing to do with either the EastBlock (Warsaw
Pact/COMECOM) or with Space Race. But anyways the Western European history
continues to diverge. In OTL the new French President Pompidou had nothing
about the membership of UK in Communauté Européenne, UK enters in 1972 and so the Commonwhealth ceases to be a customs community and
Australia, New Zealand & Canada starts to gravitate towards USA. In
contrast, in LCTL the Commonwealth as a unity merges the space activity with
From this comparative Chronological Table a
naive first guess for the effective terrestrial PoD
would be the earlier death of Mao and the succession of reformer Chou. However
this cannot be true. Note that in 1956 LCTL
Year |
LCTL |
OTL |
1947 |
Kuiper at McDonald finds O2
in Martian atmosphere |
Kuiper at McDonald finds CO2
in Martian atmosphere |
1951 |
First satellite |
IAF congress in |
1956 |
? |
Intercontinental missiles |
1957 |
? |
First Soviet satellite |
1958 |
? |
First |
1960 |
First manned spaceflight (Gagarin). Soviet Pionir-Venus
probe |
First Transit satellite for navigation |
1961 |
|
First manned spaceflight (Gagarin) |
1962 |
First interplanetary probes with TV: URSS to |
Mariner-2 flyby at Venus. First British satellite Ariel-1. |
1964 |
? |
TV from Mars (Mariner-4) |
1967 |
? |
Venera-4 enters Venus' atmosphere, but does not reach the surface |
1969 |
? |
Manned |
1970 |
? |
Venera-7 lands on Venus and sends back pictures |
1978 |
? |
Viking probes on Mars |
1981 |
First EastBlock manned mission to Venus;
first WestBlock manned mission to Mars |
Voyager TV pictures from the Saturnian
system |
1982 |
First WestBlock manned mission to Venus |
Joint Soviet-French orbital flight |
Table 2: Space science
events from 1945 till 1982
Gagarin’s flight must have been first also in
LCTL (maybe only in EastBlock?) because EastBlock named a Venusian
continent Gagarin. Spaceflights came earlier in LCTL. However I guess the
difference cannot be more than 1-2 years, because even in OTL Gagarin was young
at his flight.
We see that space
research is accelerated on LCTL; the acceleration must have started at
effective PoD. Then the 1947 Kuiper
measurement might be the effective PoD; but it is
not. For this see Table 3 about atmospheric measurements before WWII. If not
explicitly stated, then it is OTL:
Year |
Measurement |
Remark |
1645 |
F. Fontana observes dark spots on Venus |
|
1896 |
P. Lowell observes dark strips on Venus |
|
1925 |
Adams & St. John at |
|
1932 |
Adams & Dunham do not find O2 in the Venusian atmosphere but observe CO2 lines [20],
[21], [22] |
|
1932 |
Adams & Dunham observe O2 in the Venusian
atmosphere [23] |
LCTL |
1933 |
Adams & Dunham do not observe oxygen in the Martian atmosphere [24] |
|
1933 |
Adams & Dunham observe oxygen in the Martian atmosphere [25] |
LCTL |
Table 3: Important
Venus/Mars observations before WWII
The last two mentioned
measurements must have happened in 1932-3 in LCTL even if [5] writes only "in
the 1930's" because the opposition before the publication was on
Note that [20] in OTL
gave the raw data. they
then were interpreted first in [21], and then, even more explicitly, in [22],
with the result that Venus' atmosphere is CO2-dominated. Note that
even in 1950 the OTL data [26] were far from the present OTL ones. Surely a
similar sequence of interpretations happened in LCTL too, but I cannot guess
authors, titles and page numbers years after the effective terrestrial PoD.
3. ON TERRAFORMING
From modern planetological
observations we know the main data of OTL Venus, Earth and Mars. Ref. [4] gives
some data of LCTL Venus, [5] that of Mars, and LCTL terrestrial history is so
near to OTL one that bulk & atmospheric data of Earths on the two TimeLines must be very, very near. The other differences
are given in Table 4. (For style I will use Anglo-Saxon units.)
Property |
Venus, LCTL |
Venus, OTL |
Earth, LCTL
& OTL |
Mars, LCTL |
Mars, OTL |
Rot. Period |
-30h 6m |
-243d |
23h 56m |
24h 34m |
24h 37m |
Av. Temp, F° |
75 |
900 |
57 |
39 |
-50? |
Grey Body Temp,
F° |
126 |
126 |
37 |
-56 |
-56 |
Oxygen % |
22.7 |
<0.01 |
21.0 |
20.2 |
<0.1 |
CO2 % |
0.088 |
95 |
0.033 |
0.11 |
96.5 |
Pressure, psi |
17.7 |
1330 |
14.8 |
10.7 |
0.11 |
Table 4: Comparison of LCTL and OTL planets
We can deduce
something about terraformation 200 My
ago from comparing the present data, LCTL and OTL. While Mars deserves a later,
detailed, study, still here I will discuss the terraformation
of Mars briefly.
Of course most of the
bulk data are the same between the TimeLines; masses
&c. were determined 4500 My ago, not 200 My. True,
the rotational period differs 3m between TimeLines.
However, we do expect small differences. Namely, in OTL Mars tidal friction was
absent in the last 200 My, seas being absent. But
tidal friction worked on LCTL Mars.
3 minutes lengthening
of the day have happened on Earth in c. 10 My. But on
Earth Moon's tides are more than double than Sun's ones. On Mars, the strength
of solar tides is c. 1/4 than on Terra. And on LCTL Mars there are seas, but of
moderate sizes. So we would expect some minutes as differences.
OK, but LCTL Mars
rotates 3 minutes faster. Good; but terraformation may have decreased
the angular inertia of Mars, decreasing the relief via putting water into the
basins. Maybe this overshot the subsequent tidal friction; but only if the
water was Martian for origin, in layers near to the surface.
Obviously the Lords of Creation wanted fairly
terrestrial atmospheres, not irrational if the source of biological species was
Terra. The three LCTL atmospheres are still rather similar, except for the
densities, and even those are not too different. The differences are within the
range of the last 200 My changes on OTL Earth.
At present we may
believe that on Terra the impact of the Lords of Creation was negligible.
(Although see Teyud za-Zhalt's
idea in Chap. 4 of [5].) Then we can deduce the pre-200 My
atmospheres from the present OTL ones.
OTL Mars has a thin
one, mainly CO2. 200 My ago, pre-PoD, it
must have been much thicker, a CO2, H2O and N2
one. Namely
1) CO2 has
a molecular weight 44, while N2 has 28 and H2O only 18.
So Mars always loses more water than nitrogen, and nitrogen than carbon dioxide.
2) Being Mars
relatively small, the actual atmosphere is not too stationary; outgassing from volcanoes may be dominant. We do not know
(according to OTL science; but LCTL one does not seem superior, and the absolute truth is another matter) when the last OTL Martian volcanoes
stopped, but our guesses permit to believe that at least the 4 Big Ones around Mons Olympus still were active. Now, volcanic outgassing is mainly CO2 and H2O.
Surely 200 My ago Martian seas were already dry (more or less), but
water must be abundant in the depths of Mars. We can guess a much denser Martian atmosphere 200 My
ago. Anders & Owen guessed »2.5 psi. A Martian meteorite tentatively placed to this age
contains a carbonated water inclusion. We extrapolate back from present data
that this atmosphere was mainly CO2, but together with 10-20 % N2
as well. At present the atmosphere cannot be stationary, but [5] mentions a
plant producing atmospheric gases. It is simple enough for oxygen; that you can
get from carbon dioxide. As for nitrogen: there is no protein life without
nitrogen. You cannot expect too much nitrogen in rocks, so the Lords of
Creation must have transported nitrogen from somewhere, somehow, and
also must have guaranteed its preservation:
that is
tembst
indeed.
Now, for Venus, LCTL and
OTL rotation periods differ very much. Our first guess would be that the Lords
of Creation wanted to produce as a terrestrial environment as possible. In that
time Earth day was cca. 23 h.
Tidal amplitude on
Venus is roughly as strong as on Earth (no moons of Venus). Seas are slightly
more abundant on LCTL Venus than on Earth, but the difference is not enough to
explain the present difference in lengths of day. So I must assume that Lords
of Creation stopped accelerating the rotation when arriving at a roughly
terrestrial but still longer day. They may have done this deliberately as an
experiment (effects of a longer day), but maybe they were simply in hurry.
If you do not like the
idea that very powerful aliens as the Lords of Creation acted simply in hurry
(which aversion I do not share), then there remains the hypothesis of biological experiment. Now, Klevecz [27] collected
data about circadian cell cycles. He was, of course, looking for traces of OTL
ancient (so: shorter) periodicities, and, indeed, he found 16, 20 & 23.5
hour ones in Chlamydomonas, and 16, 19 & 21.5
hour ones in Neurospora. However, he found longer period times as well! E.g. he
found 29 h periodicity in Neurospora and 28 h in Chlamydomonas & Drosophila melanogaster,
as mutations. He believes that new circadian periodicities appear with
some "quantized" period times. If he is right, then LCTL organisms
can live quite well with a 28-29 h circadian cycle.
As for the atmospheric
composition, no tembst
was needed. OTL Venusian atmosphere (so cca. the one at PoD on Venus) has
enough nitrogen, if you can do something with the huge amounts of carbon dioxide.
If you produce water (rather sparse on Venus, but there the terraforming
must have been rather physics than biology), CO2 may be made bound
in calcareous minerals. Bluegreen algae (whose traces
have been found by Samuel Feldman in layers) can happily convert carbon dioxide
into oxygen.
Of course, at the
beginning after PoD it was necessary to save the
algae from the high temperature from the runaway greeenhouse
effect. We do not know how this was done. But this is not tembst; this is super physics.
There is a clear
signal that the evolutions of the crusts of OTL & LCTL Venuses began to
strongly diverge at the true PoD 200 Mya.
Ref. [4] mentions a
few numbers about the topography of LCTL Venus, in Chap. 1. According to that
the land to sea ratio is 20:80; the land is composed of 2 true continents,
Gagarin in the Arctic regions and Lobachevsky in the
Antarctic ones. These two add up to some 33 million square miles, and the
remaining 7 million is mostly chains of islands "ranging in size from tiny
atolls to nearly half a million square miles".
The topography of OTL
Venus is different. Of course, we cannot speak about continents, not being seas
at all. However, there are highlands, and their surface ratio is roughly the
same as that of the continents in LCTL. The biggest highland is equatorial
Aphrodite which seems to be represented at most by fragments in LCTL. The
second biggest highland is Arctic Ishtar of roughly
Australian size. The third is Beta, roughly 2 million sq.m., obviously of volcanic
origin as the Terran Hawaii islands. The other
highlands are no more than isolated peaks.
The OTL measurements
could not yet give fine enough vertical reliefs to
calculate what would be sea level at an LCTL-like
water content. Ishtar is much smaller than Gagarin;
but who knows what adjacent regions would be land. However the biggest OTL continent
is absent, while in OTL we cannot see the substantial LCTL Antarctic Lobachevsky. My guess is that both Aphrodite and Beta is
fragmented in LCTL.
I am going to show
that Global Plate Tectonic, anomalous in best case on OTL Venus, was quite
normal in LCTL, and this is the reason of the substantial topographic
differences. But first note that a polar position is an
equilibrium one for a continent. Namely, ascending "currents"
of the mantle try to break up low-density continental plates, and if not, then
at least push them. Now, the exact pattern comes from instabilities in open
system thermodynamics, so we cannot predict
it. However, planetary rotation defines the poles. So we expect a continent
once around the pole to remain there. On Earth, in OTL our only well-known
example,
Terran
North Pole was sea/ocean in the last 200 My, but
generally there were substantial continents in the neighbourhood; while subtropic/tropic
First, rotation of OTL
Venus is so slow that for first approximation the position of the poles is not
felt in the mantle. Second, the crust of OTL Venus is rather thin.
An analytic toy model
demonstrates this. Assume that all rocky planetary bodies are composed of the
same materials in the same ratios (probably not true) and they are internally
homogeneous (untrue for the larger bodies). You can find the calculations in
[28], [29] and [30], even if they are crude approximations. Then one gets for
the internal temperature distribution:
T(r) = (F/6κ)(Q2-r2) (3.1)
where F is the volume density of
heat production from radioactive decay and κ is the heat conduction
coefficient.
Now, we can measure
the surface temperature, and in Earth, the thickness of the crust, so the
average depth of the Moho discontinuity, which is
given as 21 miles in Earth. We may assume that the primary reason of this
discontinuity is a temperature, where
the rigid crustal rocks become too plastic. Thence we
get:
Dcr,V » (Tm-Ts,V)(Tm-Ts,E)-1RERV-1Dcr,E (3.2)
Terrestrial interior
models yield T»1450 F° at Moho. Substituting all these into the above equation we get
that the thickness of crust is very similar on Earth and LCTL Venus, while the Moho discontinuity may be as near to surface as 2.5 miles
on OTL Venus. So on OTL Venus plates may exist, they may move, but they are not
too rigid. In contrast, in LCTL plates can move, merge or break up essentially
in the same way as on Earth.
It is worthwhile to
note finally that between Venus and Terra there are two interesting but rather
unexplained resonances.
The first may be
harmless enough: 8 terrestrial years are equal to 13.004 Venus years. The
"ratio of small integers" is maybe "too good to be accidental",
but maybe it is accidental, and if not, the cause may be hidden among the
unknown details of planetogenesis 4550 My ago. The resonance is the same in LCTL.
However the very good
resonance of OTL Venusian & Terran
years and the Venusian day seems hopeless to be
explained. First, let us emphasize, that the retrograde 243 day rotation period
of Venus is unexplained. The expectation for centuries was either cca. 24 h (as for Earth & Mars, but see also the
10-hour period of the giant planets as well), or cca.
225 day direct because of the solar
tides. The -243 day period is quite arbitrary.
However, anything be the cause, now between 2 Venus-Terra opposition there is
5.002 Venusian days, so even if the clouds had not obscured totally the surface patterns we
would have believed in frozen rotation. We (in OTL) have no idea at all
what could have produced this
resonance; and we do not have too much reason to believe that the length of the
Venusian day remained constant in 4.55 Gy. Might Teyud za-Zhalt be on a good track in Chap. 4 of [5]?
4. DISCUSSION
Table 4 shows a clear
terrestrial difference between LCTL & OTL in 1932: the detectation
of Venusian atmosphere. This would be the ideal
effective, terrestrial, PoD. However we have to check
this suggestion, from both directions.
If not the terraforming of Venus & Mars, the stealing of humans to
populate them might influence Terrestrial history. We have told arguments that
the influence might have been small and transient; and it indeed was. Until mid-50's the actors of Big Politics are the same in LCTL
& OTL: Stalin of the
My suggestion for the
effective, terrestrial, PoD is 1932, the Adams &
Dunham observation for the Venusian atmosphere (Table
3). However, to accept the suggestion, one should first investigate some
critical points, as:
1) LCTL Venus might
have shown some pictures in visible light different from OTL Venus between
antiquity and 1932, so influencing History.
2) The 1925 Adams
& St. John Mars observation (Table 3) is against post-Mariner-4 Mars.
3) How can political
history & WWII be similar in LCTL & OTL after 1932 if that is effective
terrestrial PoD?
Let us go step by
step. In antiquity lots of cultures identified Venus with the Goddess of Love
& Beauty (Sumerian Innin, Akkadian
Ishtar, Greek Aphrodite, Roman Venus), obviously for
her brightness & brilliance. Different LCTL optical image would have
disturbed away LCTL & OTL histories; there was 4000 years for this. So LCTL
Venus (about whose optical appearance on the terrestrial sky is not referred in
[4]) must have also high albedo and more or less
continuous clouds.
Indeed, LCTL albedo is high, according to temperatures reported from the
Venusian surface. LCTL Venus is some 50 F° cooler
than she would be without atmosphere (Table 4). Since its CO2
content is some 1.5 times higher than that of Earth, we would expect a strong
greenhouse effect, not the opposite. So surely a reflective cloud layer is
present, even if we are not informed about the details.
However [4] mentions
that stars are sometimes seen from the surface of LCTL Venus; Teesa, Shamaness of the Nesbergu, knows them even if she is not too interested in
them. But this does not contradict the high albedo.
OTL handbooks give various albedos between 0.59 &
0.80 (which variance is somewhat surprising); but even with the highest value
one-fifth of the light enters the layers below the reflective clouds and may
reach the surface (surely, blurred). The details would depend on the LCTL
atmospheric conditions, about which [4] gives little information.
But telescopic
observations were commonplace after Galileo. In an atmosphere not much denser
than that of Earth, the reflective layer cannot be so
uniform as in OTL, and therefore dark spots are sometimes seen.
OK, but dark spots
were sometimes reported; see Table 3. Now we in OTL believe that these
observations were optical illusions; but the impact on history does not depend
on the objective value of observations.
Also, from XVIIIth century AD two kinds of observations showed
substantial atmosphere: the "horns" and the ring around the disc of
Venus when passing before Sun. The horns, clearly a consequence of refraction
in Venusian atmosphere, were reported and explained
by Schröter in 1792, but with no attempt to calculate atmospheric density. For the ring
or Black Drop Easterners refer Lomonosov from the
1761 event and Westerners Captain Cook from the next, 1769 one [31].
Easterners remember
the Soviet national sport to antedate any Western discovery. A Hungarian book
from 1958 reproduces "Lomonosov's original"
figures, surprisingly enough, labelled
with Latin letters. As for Captain Cook, he writes about a ring and the
problems the ring caused to determine the exact moment of inner contact, but othervise the report is vague enough and Captain Cook did
not try to calculate a density.
Anyway, in these
observations the refraction above the
reflecting clouds was seen. In OTL that is 40 miles above the surface and
higher; there the pressure is well below 1 terrestrial atmosphere. And even in
OTL 1960 Vaucouleurs & Menzel,
observing Regulus' occultation and then extrapolating
to the surface, got a mere 1.6-2.8 atmosphere for the surface pressure. So
observations in visible light would not have made a clear difference between
LCTL & OTL Venuses prior 1932. For more detailed but somewhat looser
arguments see App. C.
For Point 2) we note
that quite a few OTL observations
suggested more or less Earth-like Mars before 1933 (one of them is [16] from
1925). This point will be relegated to a later study; but the fact, anything be
the explanation, means that pre-1932 observations were unable to distinguish
between LCTL & OTL Marses. See also App. D.
For Point 3) we note
that [4] and [5] are rather tacit about History between 1932 and 1945. But
obviously 2 Big Powers need detailed discussion:
Now, at the Adams
& Dunham observation
The situation was
different in
As if the URSS, first
she was quite full with mere terrestrial goals as taking away the lands from
the farmers or home class struggles and forced industrialisation. True, Alexei Tolstoi had already written the novel Aelita,
where a Soviet spaceman lands on Mars, has a romance, and parallelly
leads a revolution of local workers against the privilegized.
I think, the novel had its impact from LCTL 1947, when
in LCTL URSS space activity went up too, keeping step by step with
In LCTL Kuiper confirms the 1932-33 observations in 1947 and Cold
War goes gradually into Space. Earth herself will be somewhat more peaceful
from mid-50's. I wonder if this has any effect on
Mao's early death in LCTL; but surely, Chou & Chang there settle the second
Qemoy-Matsu Crisis peacefully, while in OTL the Qemoy-Matsu Problem was active till '88 and is
theoretically such even now.
I am sad that the only
definite LCTL remark about
APPENDIX A: CHAOS,
BUTTERFLIES AND AH
The recurrent problem
of Alternate Histories is: how similar is the history on an ATL compared to the
history on OTL after PoD. We cannot be sure, being the discipline of Alternate Histories is
completely without an experimental basis. Still, Theory tells us something.
Some people argues that History has a big enough inertia. This point was
somewhat discussed by Poul Anderson (physicist) and
Isaac Asimov (biochemist). The argumentation goes in the way: if I eliminated
one of the tenth degree ancestors of
But, again: the birth
of a specific individual depends not only on the persons of mother and father.
OK, within 28 days, the mother donates the same ovum. But for the paternal
sperm minutes may count, so some night disturbance may lead to a somewhat different
offspring. So in these years the alternate view is much more fashionable,
telling that in complicated systems Chaos is inherent: if a butterfly is moving
its wings in
As for History, Truth
is somewhere between; but we do not know, where. However I can mention
examples/analogies.
Imagine a set of
variables x = {x,y,...}, with evolution equations
dx/dt
= Dx(x,y,...)
...
where Dx(x) are some
differential or integro-differential equations of
finite and moderate ranks. This system of equations may be chaotic, as the
differential equations of celestial mechanics (not beyond Rank 2) indeed are,
and in the Asteroid Belt somewhere the horizon is not farther than 10,000
years. However, if the equations have a First Integral, as e.g. total energy,
total angular momentum or such, that quantity is not chaotic; it is a constant.
So if T is a time horizon, that does not mean that everything will be quite unpredictable beyond T. Some
characteristics will be, some will not. It is true
that after PoD in general the difference in lots of characters will grow as
Δi~ eaitdi
where the d's
are the (quantum?) jumps at PoD but the ai's may be almost anything. Some are negatuive (“convergence”), but some are positive, so
histories start to diverge in those characters.
Now let us try to
apply this on The Sky People [4]. Lords of Creation terraformed Venus in Triassic. This would not
influence Earth at all if the
astronomical picture of Venus on Earth's sky do not
change. Sure, it would have changed if the albedo had
changed; but a big change of the albedo would have
made impossible to get viable temperatures with the rather high 0.088 % CO2
content anyways.
APPENDIX B: NESBERGU,
INDO-EUROPEAN LINGUISTICS & MESOLITHIC INNOVATIONS
Well, the Lords of
Creation stole some animals as well. But I am not sure that a few Bovidae or proto-Sus really
influenced us.
The story becomes more
sensitive with Homo sapiens. In LCTL Lords of Creation captured and exported a
bunch of palaeo-Kartahownians, and that bunch
remained on Earth in OTL. So their genetic inheritance is a difference between
LCTL & OTL.
However, note that
LCTL modern linguists are unable to find Terrestrial kins
of the Kartahownian language. So it is quite possible
that the transplanted group was not too successful in OTL, so their influence
on us was extremely minor. This could be proven for language, and could not
for other characters; but even this is something.
The
argumentation at the end of App. A would not hold automatically for the Nesbergu. They are Indo-Europeans, so their near relatives
have quite an influence on XXth century
Earth; both LCTL and OTL. However, both from the language and for the
appearance of Nesbergu the ancestors seem to have
been a peripheral small group. I would dare say, at the very fringe of IE
world. While the old IE people may have been diverse for physical anthropology,
amber skin with blond hairs is a special combination,
and the complete disappearance of the [t] sound as second consonant in
"father" shows an outlying group as well. (A descendant of a t-sound
can be found here even in Tokharian.)
Ref. [4] gives a few
words: the construction of the tribal name Nesbergu,
two similar collective names, a few numerals, 2 kinship names +
"Sky". We cannot work from anything else, so let us start.
Linguist Blair becomes
conspicious when hearing the tribal names Nesbergu = Cloud Mountain People, Wergu
= beastpeople (neanderthals),
Firigu = True People. Why?
It is an OTL linguist
story, how Ventris & Chadwick decyphered
Mycenaean tablets. (It is so early in the 50's that I think LCTL linguists also
tell the story.) They had no reason to believe that the text was Greek; however
some pattern agreed; they tried with the work hypotheses and they became able
to red more and more texts.
Now
translations were given by the two people having made bilingual by an artifact of the Lords of the Creation, but remaining quite
innocent of Indo-European linguistics. So the 3 meanings were yielded to
linguist Blair. But then very probably:
gu = people, humans
and
wer = beast-, feral,
animal or something such
firi = real, true
Nesber =
Now, each European
linguist learns some Gothic, that being the oldest German language with
substantial records, from IVth c. AD.
Now, in Gothic human,
man = guma and hill, mountain = bairga,
where "ai" is probably a monophtong, maybe [ä]. It seems
it has come from PIE *bheregh = high, mountain. Then
the remaining is "cloud". In Gothic it is not too similar, having no
"s" and containing another consonant in the middle; e.g. "Nebel" in High German, "nebula" in Latin or
"νεφελος"
in Greek (where the "s" is not
in the root); but you can turn to Old Church Slavonic. There (and in some other
IE languages as well) via an interesting but understandable shift the root is
applied to Sky, Heaven; and it has a shorter root for Vocative &
Nominative, and a longer one for the other cases. The longer root is: nebeso-.
Therefore if the Nesbergu
came from somewhere the neighbourhood of the Urheimat
of Goths + if the words shortened
much then the expression is IE.
But then Wer and Firi should
have too IE etymologies. However they may have.
As it is well known,
PIE ghwer-
= Lat. ferus = Cymr. gwyllt = Engl. feral, wild, beast
Now let us see a parallel example:
PIE gwiwos
= Lat. vivus, Osc. bivus = Engl. quick
and
Lat. vivere
= Cymr. byw
Lat. viridis
= Cymr. gwyrrd
= Engl. green
So the pattern is: PIE initial gw- is
continued in Celtic gw-, but in Latin v- and
Oscan/Umbrian b-. However we are interested now not in gw-, but in ghw-. Let us
do it with some caution:
PIE ghwer-
= Lat. ferus = Cymr. gwyllt = Engl. wild = Nesb. wer-
As for Firi, I cannot be sure, but I suggest
the Italo-Celtic - Nesbergu
etymology
Lat. verus
(adj.) = Cymr. gwir (=
Engl. true) = Nesb. firi
to the parallel of viridis
& vivus. Then we are ready with the collective names;
Nesbergu might indeed be Indo-European.
If we want to go back
fully to PIU unity, Wergu is wer-
+ gu- < ghwer- + dhghomyo-, which now will be written into the more
unequivocal orthography ghwer- + dhghomyo-. The root dhghomyo- in itself is a derivation from dhghem- = "earth". So dhghomyo = earthling, mortal. This paraphrasis acted as the common plural of wiro- & gwena, as people is
the common plural of man & woman. So both Lat. homo and Goth guma is a regular descendant.
It seems that proto-IE
was not easy to speak rapidly. Of
course, native speakers of languages less sonorant
than English, Italian or Polynesian still speak their languages without any
problem; they learn it in infancy. E.g. Slovakian has words without even a
single vowel; but then they must contain "at least" an -r- or -l-. It
is easy to pronounce them after a few hours of practicising;
I have learnt it although my pronunciation may be awkward for a Slovakian. But
dhghomyo starts with
two aspirated stops next to each other. I could not form two stops without a
vowel between.
Maybe dh
and gh were not exactly stops (although IE linguists generally speak
about the threefold representation of stops as e.g. {d,dh,t}. You may
try with dh
as the English sound in then; and gh as the sound was pronunciated some 800 years ago in enough. But even then dhghomyo
would not be easy to enunciate.
Surely facultative
murmured half-vowels, impossible to reconstruct, were used. But even then, with
such consonant-rich vocabulary surely speech was slower and more deliberate. In
all branches of IE consonant clusters are continuously simplifying in the age
of records, more than 2000 years for Romance languages. Surely this happened in
the previous 2 millennia as well, with the result that
dhghomyo became homo
in the Latin and guma in the Gothic. So Gwerdhghomyo
> Wergu in Nesbergu; and
now I had demonstrated why I think it is better not to demonstrate with the
reconstructed PIE form of the Nesbergu compound Nesbergu.
The next step will be
the check with the words "mother", "father" and
"sky". Unfortunately, "mother" and "father" came
into IE originally to baby talk. "Mother" is "ma", and it
is absolutely unusable, as Lieutenant Vitrac stated
it. The "father" word, at least, shows regular sound shifts within
IE. The reconstructed form is *pVter,
where V is either the neutral vowel swa indogermanicum, or h2, a laryngeal. Some
reflexes are:
Sanskr. pitar, Gr. πατηρ,
Lat. pater, Osc. patír, Tokh.
pacar (c=t'), Goth. fadar, OIr athir,
Arm. hair; Nesb. piwar
As for sky, we saw
above that some IE subgroups called the sky "Cloudy". But not all;
and even if they did it, they kept the root "(Clear/Sunny) Sky" for
related ideas as "day" or "god". So:
PIE *Dyeus" ~ OLat. Diovis = Osc. Iuves
= Gr. Ζευς/Διος
= Hit. Sius ~ Sanskr. dyaus ~ OIr deib (the -s's do not belong to
the root); Nesb. taiz
The etymologies are
satisfactory, so Nesbergu indeed seems IE. Still, the most outlying IE language (loss of the t-sound in piwar and loss of the -u- in taiz).
For such a strong divergent evolution either a peripheric
position or a long separation time is needed. In any case, the neighbourhood of
Goths, existing a mere 2000 years ago well within the Germanic sphere is
clearly not enough. So othic
may have yielded the IE idea, but for more specific details it cannot be else
than a will-o'-the wisp. Let us continue the discussion methodically.
Now, it is not easy to
decide the chronology of the transplantation of Nesbergu
from OTL data; I think in LCTL linguists using the seminal works of Ch.
Blair about the Nesbergu language are ahead of us in
constructing IE language trees. My poor best trial goes as follows.
In LCTL 1989 Nesbergu were just at the border of Neolithic, but without
bow & arrow. The language is definitely Indo-European or something very
near to it (it is a matter of definition, what is exactly Indo-European, see
the Indo-Hittite school), definitely kentum subgroup.
As for physical anthropology, their skins are not too depigmented
("amber-skinned"), but hairs are often blond and eyes blue, and
tilted. A Russian technician in the Prologue of [4], watching the first TV
pictures from Venus showing the flight of Deera, Shamaness of Nesbergu believes
that such people are strange but they might live in the Urals. What can we get
from these data?
Physical anthropology
points towards "Northeast" from European viewpoint, or to an
acquisition from a tribe of dual origin, one Eastern & moderately
pigmented, one Northern and depigmented and then
genetic drift because of the small number of the transplanted. (Also, the tribe
should have been rather peripherial in the IE
community, because the event did not influence History.)
This is the proper
time to compare the Nesbergu cardinal numbers to
various other IE ones. We know them up to 10; but number "1" was very
often originally a demonstrative pronoun and approaching 10 various
peculiarities may appear. So, there came the cardinals between 2 & 6:
N° |
PIE |
Nesb. |
Latin |
Goth. |
Sanskr. |
Lith. |
Arm. |
Hittite |
- |
Recon. |
? |
kentum |
kentum |
satem |
satem |
? |
kentum |
2 |
duwo |
tah |
duo |
twai |
duvan |
Du |
erk'u |
da- |
3 |
treyes |
tro |
tres |
threis |
trayas |
trys |
erekh |
tri- |
4 |
qwetwores |
keti |
quattuor |
fidwor |
catvaras |
keturi |
chorkh |
meui- |
5 |
penkwe |
pekki |
quinque |
finf |
panca |
penki |
hing |
panku* |
6 |
sweks |
sews |
sex |
saiks |
shash |
šeši |
vech |
? |
*: 5 is Lycian
Table 6: IE cardinal numbers
from 2 to 6
Nesbergu
cardinals, albeit exotic, seem more conservative than the Armenian ones, and observe
also the strange Hittite "4". So the IE origin is indeed probable;
but the peculiarities cannot be explained until the time and place of
acquisition will have been successfully discussed. Because we cannot know the
time of the next information about LCTL Venus, I continue with the discussion
of possibilities.
Now, in recent OTL
years there are two great schools about IE protohistory
& dispersal, and combinations of them. We may call one of the school
"the traditional linguistic" one, and the other "origin from
Anatolian agriculturalists".
Obviously in all
extant of well documented IE languages Hittite is most peculiar and also have the oldest records. Now, the first school tells that
Hittites (and close kins) were the first group
leaving the area of IE unity (already showing some strong dialectal
differences) and making a long trek to
The Anatolian school,
however, uses longer IE chronologies. The idea is that the proto-IE population
was the primordial agriculturalists of
In OTL results of
checking the alternative scenarios are still equivocal. A very detailed and
heavily mathematised article [33] got the end of
linguistic unity between 5800 & 7800 BC. This supports the Anatolian
scenario; however there are problems. On one hand, Hittites were definitely newcomers
just after 2000 BC at the center of the later Hittite
Empire where their predecessors were the quite unrelated Hattic
people. So Anatolian languages could not dominate
Now the traditional
linguistic school made a lot of work about linguistic innovations within IE.
There are lots of sound shifts, changes in conjugations & declensions
&c. established even if the time data are rather vague in linguistics
itself. A recent paper [34] tried to reconstruct the proto-Greek stage and
concluded that there is practically no time range for it. Without going into
unnecessary details, the essence of the arguments is as follows.
Proto-Greek is/was the
language which i) already differed from NIE (Nuclear
IE, i.e. IE - Hittite) and ii) was the common ancestor of all later Greek dialects. Now, proto-Greeks arrive at
But when trying to
reconstruct a stage which would have been the common ancestor of all Greek
dialects, it is almost NIE, with minimal differences in declension and with
still ongoing phonologic changes. In these characters proto-Greek is still a
NIE dialect. the
only definite difference is in the vocabulary: lots of words learnt from the autochtones in
Here we are, in OTL
2008. In LCTL the inclusion of Nesbergu into the
trees surely helped a lot; but that information being unavailable here I
continue as I can. In the Anatolian scenario Nesbergu
were picked i) from Anatolia before 5800 BC (the time
is taken from [33]), or ii) from the steppe much later, say just before 4400 BC
(horse domestication) because some time was needed to deviate so much from the
other IE languages, to mix with Easterners &c. And here we can use the lack
of bow & arrow.
In the alternative
scenario i) we must think in a tribe on the Northeast
of the Pontic IE Urheimat;
ii) the acquisition time should be before 4400 BC because otherwise the
transplanted Nesbergu would have domesticated churr on Venus; iii) and the time is better to put back
even more because there were no bows
& arrows.
As for the time range,
Mesolithe came with the neothermal
climate. With the global warming coming in 9700 BC the great herbivores
(reindeer, wisent, mammoth &c. either went to North, or at least definitely
changed habits. So the Magdalenian economy based on specialised hunting broke
down; the new lifestyle is the Mesolithic one, Maglemosian
first on the Northern Plains/around
We are 4 millennia
before the end of IE unity. Could a language be IE/PIE in 8000 BC? Well, there
is an OTL book [35] reconstructing the linguistic history as follows. Until c.
13,000 BC there was in Eurasia a unique linguistic superfamily
Vasco-Dene or Greater Dene-Caucasian
or you may it call as you want (Ice Age hunters are mobile enough) ; of course
with some serious differences at huge distances. Then first came
the Natufian culture in the
Natufian
invented the harvesting society, and after Global Warming Northerners the
Mesolithic life. Population density increased for the inventive people. So a
small community “just South of the
I am not fanatic about this theory (of
course). Still the story demonstrates that there might have been a few
millennia of slow proto-IE spread before 4400 BC.
And finally, why not between 13,000 &
8,000? Let us consult with Table 7, which is now again the cardinals, but in a Nostratic context:
Number |
Nesb. |
PIE |
Etrusc. |
PFU |
Magyar |
Nenets |
Old Turk. |
- |
IE? |
Reconst. |
? |
Reconst. |
FU/Uralic |
Uralic |
Altaic |
2 |
tah |
duwo |
zal |
Kakte |
két |
s'id'a |
iki |
3 |
tro |
treyes |
ci |
Kolm |
három |
n'axar?* |
üch |
4 |
keti |
qwetwores |
huth |
Neljä |
négy |
t'et |
tört |
5 |
pekki |
penkwe |
mach |
Vitte |
öt |
saml'angg |
besh |
6 |
sews |
sweks |
sa |
Kutte |
hat |
mat? |
altı |
*: ? here is a glottal stop
Table 7: Nostratic
cardinals
Apart from Etruscan,
whose position is doubtful, everybody agrees that the nearest Nostratic neighbours of Indo-European are Uralic and
Altaic; and Uralic & Altaic are so close to each other that FU Magyar can
import any number of Turkish words without grammatical problems (this was
definitely done between c. 550 and 850 AD).
Still,
no similarity between PIE & PFU cardinals.
There is also no similarity between Old Turkish and PFU (or Magyar) cardinals.
And there is also no similarity between Uralic PFU and Uralic Nenets! While nebula ~ Mongolian neghü ~ Proto-Tunguz nibup ~ Old Japanese nipop ~
Western Canadian Inupik nuvija.
Berg ~ Altaic *bioro ~ Samoyed pir. Ferus ~ Proto-Altaic gúri ~ Proto-Uralic kojra. Quite possible etymologies
throughout Nostratic; some vocabulary even claims
that the Modern Magyar variant of PIE g’hwer- is here, in elegant Latin testis.
True, if a mammal has testes, he is generally wilder, even if not feral.
Fundamental words survived the separation of PIE from amongst Nostratic, why not the cardinal numbers?
But this just means
that cardinals are more sensitive. A possible reason may be that the system of counting words (which were, anyway, high
tech for specialists first) had been built up/rearranged/specialised in
Mesolithic, independently in the individual families.
Indeed, "9" is even now not unique in the IE family, the
reconstruction of cardinals has not yet been successful above 6 in the
Finno-Ugric subfamily of the Uralic family, and for the whole family the
reconstruction of a unique counting set of any
size seems hopeless.
But Nesbergu is clearly a member of the IE system. As for
Etruscan, there is no consensus.
APPENDIX C: FRAGMENTS FROM
THE HISTORY OF PRE-MARINER & PRE-VENERA OBSERVATIONS OF VENUS IN OTL
The aim of this
Appendix is to demonstrate that OTL astronomy until the probe Mariner-2 in 1962
had a wide variety of opinia about Venusian atmosphere, rotation & temperature; even after
the results of Adams & Dunham's 1932 observations. Then, to help LCTL
statements, we must utilize a somewhat inverse argumentation, as follows.
If in OTL, where Venus
is not terraformed, and its disc in visible light is unblemished white, lots of honest
reports mentioned dark spots, mountains &c., then in LCTL where the disc
still is unblemished white, but not everywhere in every moment, some telescopic
observations may have showed real
topography; still the only difference between OTL and LCTL peoples (until cca. Kuiper, 1947) was that in
OTL the topographic observations were incorrect while in LCTL they were
correct. So surely until WWII the layman population, politicians, first
secretaries, warlords &c. may have reacted rather similarly on the two TimeLines.
For practical reasons
I will make the argumentation in 2 steps: from Galileo to 1959, and from 1959
to 1962. The Mariner-2 flyby happened on
I belonged to EastBlock, so we were at some distance from information
(both Western and Eastern). Therefore my synchronous information was generally
second or third hand; and after Mariner-2 everybody soon forgot the earlier
observations for habitable OTL Venus.
Therefore lots of efforts would be necessary for me to trace back the original
references. So I will not do it; if someone is really interested, the names and
years I give may be enough for him. There is a work of F Suppe
on Internet which might be useful, but that author forbids the citation of the
Internet version in a statement, so, while I regret it, I of course will not
cite the work.
Till 1959
1) Atmosphere.
Two questions were
very important: Was there oxygen? and Was there water?
Finding the oxygen
needed spectroscopy so that rather belonged to XXth
century. As for water refraction &c. might have been enough.
Bianchini
in 1726 drew a map with oceans & continents. In 1874 Tacchini
& Ricco saw water vapour. Then came
Nobel laureate Svante Arrhenius,
who wrote in 1918 the book "The Destiny of Stars", where he
visualised Venus as a very warm and very humid world.
Here I stop a moment. Arrhenius was indeed a Nobel laureate; he got the prize in
1903; and he was a scientist. But he got the prize for Chemistry, so he was not the best source to tell: what is indeed on Venus. If, however, there is water, then the remainder
indeed is the domain of a chemist.
So Arrhenius'
Venus was warm & humid. For this reason he doubted the presence of higher
animals; his Venus was the world of jungles. Higher animals will come later
after cooling down.
Later some very
reliable astronomers (as e.g. Dollfus) reported the
observation of something which seemed to be water (vapour or droplets); and the
similarly reliable cosmochemist Urey
in 1956 interprets Dollfus positively.
In 1955 Whipple & Menzel guessed that the Venusian
oceans would be carbonated water or something similar. And in 1959 Ross &
Moore detected above the Venusian cloud layer water
vapour from a high balloon; more than in comparable Terrestrial heights.
Wildt
suggested that the clouds were of formaldehyde drops.
2) Rotation
For a long time the
determination of rotation tried to utilize topographic marks believed to be
real. Rotation has 3 fundamental characteristics: period time, tilt and chirality (direct vs. retrograde).
As for period time,
results can be classified as i) 225 days (so frozen
via tides); ii) cca. 1 days; iii)
something between. There was no clear evolution; in any time any of the
three opinia was held by somebody. E.g. Schiaparelli & Lowell observed synchronous rotation,
while Cassini, Schröter, DeVico & Belopolski measured
some period near to 24 hours; Schröter being the most
ambitious with some 23h 21m 8s in 1811.
However Bianchini measured 24.3 days,
As for observations of
spots,
Some white spots
similar to polar caps were (and are) seen. If it is indeed a polar cap, then we
know the axial tilt. Lots of suggestions/determinations of the tilt were
published, as e.g. Shröter saw 15°,
And everybody expected
direct rotation (why not?) and did not see anything strongly contradicting it.
3) Temperature
Almost everywhere
believed in a hot Venus, of course. E.g. Fontenelle
in the XVIIIth century characterizes the Venusians by
telling that the Granadan Moors would be as cold
compared to the Venusians as the Greenland Esquimaux
or the Lapps to “us”. Arrhenius guessed 117 F° for
average temperature. At the beginning of the 1950's a guess was 140 F° at the
day hemisphere and -10 F° on the night one.
Then already the
temperature at the top of the cloud layer had been quite directly measured as
something -40 F°. However that datum told not too much about the surface.
Between 1959 and the
Mariner-2
Observation technique
improved very much in the last years of Earth-based aphroditology.
Some of my sources need an explanation. Between 1957 and 1988 a book was
published in
So some politically
reliable old engineers founded the series called "Univerzum
Könyvek" (Universe Books), to transfer
Knowledge. The series referred the international literature at high
popularizing level (as e.g. National Geographic), but frequently not as a
direct translation, but somewhat stylized (especially if the source was Western
and contained some sensitive point). It never gave exact bibliographic data of
the references in the original source. And so on.
Now, in the time range
of this Subchapter the series published 3 articles about Venus: in April 1960,
April 1961 and July 1962. The first one was a compilation of the Editors
"after Science News", the second also a compilation after Soviet
sources, and the third was originally published in the Soviet journal "Priroda" by D. I. Martinov.
It will be sufficient to discuss only the first as the beginning of the time
range and the third, as the end of it: in 5 more months the Mariner-2 flyby
happened.
The first article
obviously represented a minority opinion at the end of 1959; but obviously not
an absurd one. I am unable to trace back the original author, but obviously he
was somehow connected to Firsoff. The important
statements (sometimes with complicated and very optimistic argumentation) are
as:
Temperature at the
cloud layer is -38 F°.
Chamberlain & Kuiper determined the average temperature of the carbon
dioxide as 54±9 F°.
Houtgast
in 1953 detected that Earth gets less
solar wind when Venus is between. So Venus must have a strong
magnetic field; at least 5 times of terrestrial strength.
And the clouds reflect
a lot of incoming solar radiation; at the final count the average temperature
at the surface may be so low as 64 F°.
This is very similar
to LCTL Venus, altough slightly cooler. There is no O2
reported: but even it might occur somehow below the clouds. Therefore an LCTL
Venus might have been still consistent (even if not probable) with OTL observations in 1959.
Everything is
different in 1962: rotation is probably retrograde, the period is cca. 10 days, the surface is "moderately hot":
175-210 F°. Observe: even this is not
the Venus of Mariner-2. That will be (250-300) days
retrograde rotation and cca. 900 F°.
APPENDIX D: WHY NOT 1922?
There is a concurrent
candidate for the effective, terrestrial, PoD: 1922,
when in OTL St. John & Nicholson were unable to detect oxygen and water in
the Venusian atmosphere [36].
The principle of the
measurement was sound, and as far as we now (in OTL) know the astronomers were
right. If you observe the reflected light of a planet, the rays start from Sun,
transverse twice the planetary atmosphere,
and finally also the terrestrial atmosphere. In the solar spectrum both
emission and absorption lines may occur, but in the planetary and terrestrial
contributions only absorption lines are possible. In addition, in the direct
solar spectrum we in fact see the terrestrial absorption as well, so the
difference of the direct and Venusian observation is
just the (twice of the) Venusian contribution.
However the
measurement is not easy if we look for gases abundant in the terrestrial
atmosphere. So St John & Nicholson observed at maximal elongation. At such
times the relative velocity of Earth and Venus is greater than 40 km/s, so the
absolute value of the redshift is >10-4.
This helps somewhat to separate Venusian and
terrestrial water vapour.
St. John &
Nicholson in OTL 1922 were unable to see extra O2 and H2O
absorptions in the Venusian spectra. I have no LCTL
information about such a measurement before 1932. But it would be rather
surprising if St. John & Nicholson had not tried with it in LCTL in 1922.
That is another matter, what was the LCTL result. LCTL Venus has slightly more
oxygen and substantially more water vapour than Earth does. Still, the
overwhelming majority of the reflected light is reflected from the clouds, in
OTL at 70 km height. We do not have information about the LCTL height; but
anyway, simple reflected-light spectroscopy would yield information about the upper atmosphere.
At the clouds OTL
Venus' atmospheric pressure is some 0.5 psi, 4 % of
the terrestrial surface value and some 5*10-4 part of the Venusian surface pressure. So there is not much absorption
in the reflected light anyways. We do not
know the height of the cloudy surface in LCTL. However, calculating with
the same 70 km, LCTL Venus could not have given too much signal to St. John
& Nicholson.
Indeed, in OTL the
1922 paper [36] was not considered the last word. The authors were simply
contradicting Nobelist Arrhenius.
In a few years Adams & St. John detected some oxygen & water vapour on Mars [19], where light penetrates the entire atmosphere. (As we know now, this
measurement was incorrect!) In contrast, the 1932 OTL Adams & Dunham
measurement establishing a carbon dioxide atmosphere of Venus was not a purely negative measurement.
Even this OTL 1932
result is not valid now, in 2008. For this, let us see Table III of [37],
slightly simplified: the mass of atoms in a column are
Gas, g/cm2 |
O2 |
CO2 |
H2O |
Venus |
<2 |
60 |
<0.1 |
Earth |
230 |
0.4 |
0.7 |
Mars |
<2 |
<20 |
0.05 |
Table 5: Planetary
atmospheres according to 1942 OTL best knowledge [37]
While this 1942
publication correctly suggests a predominantly carbon dioxide atmosphere of
Venus, for our present (OTL) knowledge it would be too thin, by more than 2
orders of magnitude. Again: measurements detected only the atmosphere above the
clouds.
And this was known for
everybody. So the St. John & Nicholson paper could not settle the question.
Even if in LCTL they found some oxygen and water vapour, that
might be similar to the OTL Adams & St. John measurement for Mars,
again not settling anything.
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